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		<title>New Year, Good Intentions, and Pavlovian Problems of Evil&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.thevirtualword.org/2011/01/03/new-year-good-intentions-and-pavlovian-problems-of-evil/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A new year, a new decade and good intentions as ever.  This blog was a little neglected in 2010 &#8211; a year of great change for the author with the arrival of his first child.  However, I aim to make use of the blog a little more this year, if time and discipline [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new year, a new decade and good intentions as ever.  This blog was a little neglected in 2010 &#8211; a year of great change for the author with the arrival of his first child.  However, I aim to make use of the blog a little more this year, if time and discipline allow.  So to kick start the year a brief observation on one aspect of &#8216;the problem of evil&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>The &#8216;problem of evil&#8217; &#8211; if put in simplistic terms &#8211; could be reduced to the question of how a good and all-powerful God can allow suffering in a world consisting of people He loves.  Volumes have been written on the subject and I do not believe there are any &#8217;simple&#8217; answers to the problem.  However, I do believe the Bible as a whole <em>does</em> address and answer the question on many different levels.</p>
<p>As a preliminary observation I note that the &#8216;problem&#8217; as framed above provides an inadequate description of the world the Bible describes (and we inhabit).  It seems to assume that a human observer has both an &#8216;objective position&#8217; and a reliable understanding from which to assess &#8216;the good&#8217; in any given situation.  It is only from such a position that the &#8216;problem&#8217; can even be raised!  This is a profoundly un-Biblical view of the abilities of human beings which are limited both by our finitude and our fallenness.</p>
<p>The book of <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=job%201&#038;version=NIV" target="_new">Job</a> provides one of the most sustained opportunities to reflect on the issue.  In it we see a &#8220;blameless and upright man&#8221; who suffers an extraordinary amount of suffering as a result of the machinations of the devil.  It raises searching questions about causality &#8211; what is the difference between &#8216;causing&#8217; and &#8216;allowing&#8217; a course of events?  It raises challenging questions about the &#8216;good&#8217; which God is working for in Job&#8217;s life &#8211; though I would be reluctant to presume that I had a better understanding of &#8216;the good&#8217; in this situation than the Almighty God who &#8220;laid the foundations of the earth&#8221;.</p>
<p>But there is one single angle I wish to mention today.  Job and some of his &#8216;comforters&#8217; both raise questions about why God doesn&#8217;t intervene when the wicked do wicked things.  Surely it would be better if there were instant judgement?  Why does the &#8216;temporal&#8217; relationship between evil and judgement seem to be broken?  Where is the comfort in only a <em>future</em> judgement?</p>
<p>Instant feedback for the wicked does indeed sound a much better idea&#8230; providing you are not one of the wicked.  And there is the rub for anyone holding a Biblical view of the world.  If we have a true understanding of God&#8217;s glory and God&#8217;s holiness, then it turns out that we are all committing a million offences against Him every day.  Because whenever we fail to acknoweldge God for who He is then we are worthy of judgement.  That is the nature of sin.  We make ourselves Gods and reject/ignore/forget the real God.</p>
<p>Don Carson makes the point with typical clarity and brevity:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;at the very least we should acknowledge that instant judgement on every sin would have most of us in pretty constant pain, yelping like Pavlovian dogs to avoid hurt, but without inner transformation.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>(from <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0851119743?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thevirtualwor-21&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1634&#038;creative=19450&#038;creativeASIN=0851119743">For the Love of God:Volume 2</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.co.uk/e/ir?t=thevirtualwor-21&#038;l=as2&#038;o=2&#038;a=0851119743" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />, Feb 24)</em></p>
<p>Carson&#8217;s point about the absence of &#8220;inner transformation&#8221; is a crucial one here.  But if anything the situation would be worse than he describes &#8211; because &#8220;most of us&#8221; should be &#8220;all of us&#8221; and rather than yelping in Pavlovian pain our lives would surely be ended?</p>
<p>When we have a correct view of ourselves and our own position in this world, then we won&#8217;t be demanding instantaneous judgement but we will be crying out for constant mercy.  That is why the Gospel of Jesus Christ is such good news &#8211; one has stood in our place and taken God&#8217;s judgement on Himself so that we don&#8217;t have to &#8211; either now or on the last day.</p>
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		<title>What is the Gospel?</title>
		<link>http://www.thevirtualword.org/2010/07/08/what-is-the-gospel/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things I love about the information revolution is the way it unleashes folks creativity to a wider audience.  Here is an excellent video which clearly explains the message of the Gospel in words and pictures.  

What is the Gospel? from Southern Seminary on Vimeo.
(With thanks to Tim Chapman who brought [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I love about the information revolution is the way it unleashes folks creativity to a wider audience.  Here is an excellent video which clearly explains the message of the Gospel in words and pictures.  </p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/12425590">What is the Gospel?</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/southernseminary">Southern Seminary</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p><em>(With thanks to Tim Chapman who brought it to my attention.)</em></p>
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		<title>Some great video resources</title>
		<link>http://www.thevirtualword.org/2009/11/17/some-great-video-resources/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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We are very excited by the prospect of the Passion for Life mission next year and hope you and your church are getting ready for it.
They have produced a number of useful &#8216;apologetic&#8217; videos on different subjects &#8211; all of which are available here.  
They include topics such as, suffering/evil, science and Christianity, reliability [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://apassionforlife.org.uk/download-file/images/content/apassionforlife_logo_sm.gif" alt="A Passion for Life" /><br />
We are very excited by the prospect of the <a href="http://www.apassionforlife.org.uk/" target="_new">Passion for Life</a> mission next year and hope you and your church are getting ready for it.</p>
<p>They have produced a number of useful &#8216;apologetic&#8217; videos on different subjects &#8211; all of which are <a href="http://vimeo.com/apassionforlife/videos" taraget="_new">available here</a>.  </p>
<p>They include topics such as, suffering/evil, science and Christianity, reliability of the Bible etc.  The speakers include folk like Don Carson, Paul Williams, Ro Moody, Andrew Sach and John Dickson.</p>
<p>They could be useful to show in services or in other outreach contexts.  Highly recommended!</p>
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		<title>Reasonable Faith?</title>
		<link>http://www.thevirtualword.org/2007/02/27/reasonable-faith/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m grateful to my friend AJS for pointing me to this mini-debate from the BBC Today programme between William Lane Craig and Lewis Wolpert. 
It is a classic example of two people who will not accept each other&#8217;s presuppositions. 
The scary thought is that a large number of people would fail to recognise that the second person had [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful to my friend <a title="Anthony Smith" href="http://www.anthonysmith.me.uk/">AJS</a> for pointing me to this <a title="Mini-debate" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/ram/today5_god_20070227.ram" target="_blank">mini-debate</a> from the BBC Today programme between <a title="William Lane Craig" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig" target="_blank">William Lane Craig</a> and <a title="Lewis Wolpert" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Wolpert" target="_blank">Lewis Wolpert</a>. </p>
<p>It is a classic example of two people who will not accept each other&#8217;s presuppositions. </p>
<p>The scary thought is that a large number of people would fail to recognise that the second person had any presuppositions.  It is ironic in a postmodern world that so many people of &#8216;no faith&#8217; are still so keen to claim a position of <a title="Objectivity" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_%28philosophy%29" target="_blank">objectivity</a>.</p>
<p><em> (William Lane Craig is currently running a &#8216;</em><a title="Reasonable Faith" href="http://bethinking.org/events.php" target="_blank"><em>Reasonable Faith</em></a><em>&#8216; lecture and debate series.)</em></p>
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		<title>Dawkins Delusion &#8211; follow up</title>
		<link>http://www.thevirtualword.org/2007/02/18/dawkins-delusion-follow-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is an excellent article at BeThinking which goes into a little more detail regarding the weakness of many of Dawkins&#8217; arguments.  Well worth a look.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an excellent article at <a title="BeThinking" href="http://www.bethinking.org/resource.php?ID=321" target="_blank">BeThinking</a> which goes into a little more detail regarding the weakness of many of Dawkins&#8217; arguments.  Well worth a look.</p>
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		<title>The problem of pain</title>
		<link>http://www.thevirtualword.org/2006/01/04/the-problem-of-pain/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very concise rebuttal of the atheist&#8217;s use of &#8216;the problem of pain&#8217; from the wise Mr Motyer, re-discovered as studying his helpful commentary on Amos.
&#8220;A convinced and consistent atheist may well be ready to say that chance rules all, but if he does so he must give up using &#8216;the problem of pain&#8217; as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very concise rebuttal of the atheist&#8217;s use of &#8216;the problem of pain&#8217; from the wise Mr Motyer, re-discovered as studying his helpful commentary on Amos.</p>
<p>&#8220;A convinced and consistent atheist may well be ready to say that chance rules all, but if he does so he must give up using &#8216;the problem of pain&#8217; as part of his anti-God argument and he must tell the rest of the world why suffering is universally held to be a problem and not just one of those things.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>J A Motyer, The Day of the Lion, IVP 1979, p31.</em></p>
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